tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-989890166047940960.post2369081396951941905..comments2024-01-13T10:13:06.558+00:00Comments on PaddyAnglican: Monks in MoyrossStephen Neillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15130425037498473898noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-989890166047940960.post-34419820171564307862008-02-24T19:50:00.000+00:002008-02-24T19:50:00.000+00:00Hessman - It will be available here in the next fe...Hessman - It will be available here in the next few days: http://www.rte.ie/tv/latelate/<BR/>At the moment the archive is only up to last week but it will be up shortlyStephen Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15130425037498473898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-989890166047940960.post-21908350485225210862008-02-24T19:01:00.000+00:002008-02-24T19:01:00.000+00:00Hello-How can I get a copy or view on the web the ...Hello-<BR/>How can I get a copy or view on the web the interview with the Moyross Monks? <BR/>Thanks.<BR/>HessmanHessmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03162218427771809845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-989890166047940960.post-69198224994954605112008-02-24T16:39:00.000+00:002008-02-24T16:39:00.000+00:00There I was asleep on a Sunday afternoon and wake ...There I was asleep on a Sunday afternoon and wake up to find my blog hopping! - Comments on a Sunday are rare - well comments anytime really ;-) Incidentally I think in the light of S&C's last comment we are all singing from roughly the same hymnsheet when it comes to the Friars - Never thought of myself as an extremist before but S&C has got me thinking.<BR/>I'm going for a walk to contemplate my newly discovered extremism but feel free to continue the discussion while I'm away.Stephen Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15130425037498473898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-989890166047940960.post-91934208647049974562008-02-24T16:24:00.000+00:002008-02-24T16:24:00.000+00:00I thought it was a case of kettle calling the pot ...I thought it was a case of kettle calling the pot black. Pointing a finger at those who protest outside abortion clinics, yet in preaching your own message, being extreme.<BR/>(I understand what Stephen has said about building a relationship first and only then, hitting them up with your message.)<BR/><BR/>The ZZ Top crew in Moyross, regardless of their protests, are doing good stuff. This is one of the more profound moves/ sacrifices/ missions I’ve seen any religious group make in my lifetime. I think you agree.<BR/><BR/>My point, at the risk of sounding dull, is that you are both members of the cloth who preach, and are therefore in my mind extremists. Is suppose the question now is whether you are good or bad extremists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-989890166047940960.post-62658897259803003172008-02-24T15:18:00.000+00:002008-02-24T15:18:00.000+00:00Stephen, my feelings exactly. I do wish "sniffle ...Stephen, my feelings exactly. I do wish "sniffle and cry" could have expounded a bit~ Now I'll be wondering all day if the fellows at Moycross are "scum" for being religious, for being pro-life, or if s&c just doesn't like Rock & Roll! Of life's many mysteries, then there's man!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02215557199259127287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-989890166047940960.post-77486422066562945832008-02-24T14:33:00.000+00:002008-02-24T14:33:00.000+00:00Hi Stephen,Anyway who takes an extreme position sh...Hi Stephen,<BR/><BR/>Anyway who takes an extreme position should be approached with caution. I think that�s what you�re saying about the ZZ Top look-alikes abroad in Moyross.( Because they protested outside an abortion clinic and are also members of the cloth). Is their extreme position in the protesting, or in the wearing of the cloth? If they hadn�t been priests, would you perceive their position as radical? And because they are priests is their position more radical ? And if that is the case, how much of the radicality is involved in the wearing of the cloth? <BR/><BR/>BTW, I agree with you, they will be like a much needed breath of fresh air in there. Once, when I was working temporary for the post office a hundred years ago at Christmas, I delivered letters to the same place. And maybe the delivery was before the scumbags got up, or maybe there were none there at the time (30 years back, Jeesz), but I liked that job. Of course, I coulda legged it outa there in a big hurry if anyone chased me.<BR/><BR/>Anyway back to extreme positions and the wearing of the cloth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-989890166047940960.post-81835185671504612432008-02-23T09:52:00.000+00:002008-02-23T09:52:00.000+00:00Robert I hear you and I don't doubt that some peop...Robert I hear you and I don't doubt that some people have good motives and intentions in such action. The greatest enemy of the so called 'pro-life' movement in Ireland is an organisation called SPUC who are the most vile conglomeration of hate filled individuals, something akin to the Westboro Baptist Church in the US , and I speak with authority as I have encountered both first hand! Any mention of such campaigns brings to mind such individuals which I am sure is not fair to the good friars. <BR/>However I do see that their witness includes banners (though not pictures thankfully) and it is this that I would particularly question. In seeking to follow Christ which is a vocation you and I both share we try (emphasis on TRY) to be 'Christ-like'. To me that is typified by coming alongside a person and hearing their story before we share our story, which in the case of the Gospel is a story we believe to be potentially everybodys story. But the point I am trying to make is that we build relationships before we try and convice people of the message we hopefully embody. So to my mind Christians who feel very strongly on this issue would be better at looking at the issues which face the born which drive them to the abortion clinics. I firmly believe that there are justifiable reasons for abortion but I would never see it as anything but a tragedy but I also believe that a woman's right to determine what goes on inside her own body is an area we trespass on with great caution. I would have a lot more time for some of these campaigners if they were as concerned about life after birth as they are about life before birth! This it seems to me is a better way to proceed and will ultimately be more effective at reducing abortion levels than the and the pain that surrounds it.Stephen Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15130425037498473898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-989890166047940960.post-57790328477477685332008-02-23T05:50:00.000+00:002008-02-23T05:50:00.000+00:00Stephen, this is a fascinating bit about the CFR f...Stephen, this is a fascinating bit about the CFR friars! A note, though, about the abortion clinic part: I know a minister, one of my professors in fact, who leads an outreach to such a place, careful to be what we might say "compassionately present" for the clients and their family, boyfriends, etc. Praying for, and with, many of the people, they seek to embody Christ to people in difficult circumstances.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02215557199259127287noreply@blogger.com